“For The Win” Podcast

There are a lot of political podcasts, but For The Win is very different. The new podcast — powered by Raben and hosted by Yochi Dreazen, Elliot Williams, and Abigail Omojola — doesn’t just focus on the latest news or scandal. Instead, it talks about how to fight back — and how to win.

New episodes post every other Tuesday. You can subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Spotify.



In the latest episode of For the Win’s series, Taking on Covid-19, Abby spoke with Ally Coll, president and co-founder of The Purple Campaign, about the increasingly online nature of sexual harassment and the workplace policies and tools needed to combat it.

TAKING ON COVID-19: Katie Paris

In the latest episode of For the Win’s series, Taking on COVID-19, Abby spoke with Katie Paris, founder of Ohio’s Red Wine & Blue, about virtual voter engagement and changing the minds of suburban women, a key voting bloc in the 2020 presidential election

TAKING ON COVID-19: Alejandra Castillo

In the latest episode of For the Win’s series, Taking on COVID-19, Elliot spoke with Alejandra Castillo, CEO of the YWCA, about the nationwide rise in domestic violence cases since COVID-19 began to spread — and the YWCA’s critical role in addressing it.

TAKING ON COVID-19: Cecilia Muñoz

In our latest episode of the For The Win’s series, Taking On COVID-19, Abby spoke with Cecilia Muñoz, Obama’s former Director of the Domestic Policy Council, about her role in the administration’s 2009 H1N1 Swine Flu pandemic response and the importance of collaboration between federal and state government when addressing public health crises. Cecilia also previews her newly released book, “More than Ready: Be Strong and Be You….and Other Lessons for Women of Color on the Rise.”

TAKING ON COVID-19: Innocence Project

In our latest episode of FTW’s series, Taking on COVID-19, Elliot spoke with Nina Morrison and Rebecca Brown from the Innocence Project about the profound risk to public health if COVID-19 were to spread in prisons, and what they are doing about it at the state and federal level.

TAKING ON COVID-19: Joyce Vance

COVID-19 continues to touch just about every aspect of American life. In the first episode of FTW’s series on coronavirus, Elliot spoke with former U.S. Attorney and MSNBC Legal Analyst Joyce Vance to talk about where criminal justice policy overlaps with public health policy, and how the public can do its part to stay engaged on both and how, at the nexus, we are all affected.


As coronavirus spreads, Patty First, executive and life coach and founding principal at The Raben Group, discusses how to stay in the fight when you’re stuck at home, how to cope with stress and anxiety in this unprecedented moment, and how to avoid burnout in the days ahead.

Chief Shirell Parfait-Dardar

Climate change is one of the greatest challenges of our time, and indigenous communities in the U.S. and around the world are being hit the fastest and hardest. Chief Shirell Parfait-Dardar, a tribal chief in central Louisiana, joins Abby and Yochi to talk about the rapidly disappearing landscape and the unprecedented steps tribes in Louisiana and Alaska have taken to preserve their traditional way of life — including the filing of a formal human rights complaint with the United Nations.


The 2020 U.S. Census will be the first “digital-first” count for most households. In For the Win’s first live recording, Rep. Steven Horsford and YWCA Chief Executive Officer Alejandra Castillo sit down with Rafael Bernal of The Hill to talk about the Trump administration’s ongoing efforts to hobble the census and how a lack of Internet access might affect the political power of America’s minority communities.

Mark Holden

Clichés about strange bedfellows are occasionally true. And nowhere are they truer than in the world of criminal justice reform — where conservatives and progressives have joined forces to make it a reality. Mark Holden, a senior vice president of Koch Industries, talked to Yochi and Abby about teaming up with the ACLU, winning over jittery Republicans, and why seeing the prison system first-hand made him want to change it.

Yamani Hernández

Media coverage of the abortion debate focuses on what’s happening in Washington, D.C., but Yamani Hernández of the National Network of Abortion Funds joins Abigail and Yochi to talk about why the real fights for the future of reproductive justice are being fought at the state level, why people of color are disproportionately harmed by abortion restrictions, and how to help the networks of volunteers across the country working to shelter and help the most vulnerable.

Susan Bro

Two years after her daughter was murdered by a white supremacist in Charlottesville, Heather Heyer’s mother, Susan Bro, joins Yochi and guest host Maunica to talk about the spread of online bigotry, why President Trump is making it even worse, and how to prevent hate crimes from becoming the grim new normal.

Vanita Gupta

JAN 23, 2020: Conservatives of all stripes work together to advance a far-right agenda. Vanita Gupta, the head of the country’s largest coalition of civil rights groups, tells Elliot and Yochi that progressives need to get serious about building alliances of their own.

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Alphonso David

JAN 7, 2020: Alphonso David, the president of the Human Rights Campaign, joins Elliot and Yochi to talk about why he believes President Trump is the most anti-LGBTQ president in American history, why transgender rights are the newest civil rights battleground, and the importance of progressive coalition-building in an age of conservative political dominance.

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Senator Chris Murphy

Sen. Chris Murphy’s life changed after the Sandy Hook massacre in 2012 devastated his home state of Connecticut and made him a national leader of the gun control movement. In a special episode of For The Win, Yochi heads to Capitol Hill to talk to Sen. Murphy about how Democrats can beat the NRA and why guns will be a key issue in the 2020 race.

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Ezra Levin and Leah Greenberg

DEC 3, 2019: The founders of Indivisible talk about reverse-engineering the Tea Party playbook, reminding progressives that all politics is truly local, and pushing Democrats to get serious about eliminating the filibuster, revamping the Electoral College, expanding the Supreme Court, and making Washington, D.C., a state.

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Deval Patrick

Former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick joined Elliot and Yochi days before announcing his candidacy for the presidency to talk about why voters from both parties are right to feel like the system is broken, why progressives should consider a new Constitutional amendment, and the dangers of political absolutism.

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Eric Holder

On the premiere of #ForTheWin, former Attorney General Eric Holder joins Yochi, Elliot and Maunica to talk about his fight to reverse decades of Republican gerrymandering and voter suppression, why Democrats were slow to recognize the threat, and how his party could win the popular vote again in 2020 but still lose to Donald Trump.

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